It belonged to my fathers collection and he was an avid fly fisherman. Price list: Bamboo choices: Landscape Use: Bamboo Care: Home: Our most Cold Hardy bamboo 503-647-2700 bamboo@bamboogarden.com Use this guide if you experience winter low temps of 5ºF or less The following are bamboo that should have little or no damage when exposed to the listed temperatures for a short period of time. On Screw Band"Pat. Strap with metal ring in excellent shape. Best of Luck! Contact me before payment to review expedited options. Hardy The Palakona 7'1/2 view item. Seller added the following information: Pay instantly with your debit or credit card through PayPal. Replacement intermediate and end rings. The bottom two sections are whole cane with a split cane top. I will combine shipping to $ave you $$. Total assembled measurement is 11 feet 3/4 inches. Large Monel butt ring. Has all the original eyes and all ferrules are present. Near if not mint really. org whippings. Hardy has revamped its entire rod lineup for 2020, replacing nearly everything they offered in 2019. Made from Pallokona split bamboo with crimson tyings. Includes generic plastic rod tube that will be used as a shipping tube. THE ROD IS IN FAIR TO GOOD CONDITION IN MY OPINION. Complete with bag. Sock, and tags. If you’re an avid Spey fisherman or you’re thinking about getting into the two-handed game, the Demon two-handed series from Hardy is … One is missing 1 guide otherwise all are present. All Rods’ range from the 1960’s to the 1970’s. Vintage Wright Mcgill Eagle Claw Trailmaster, Hardy Bros Original Bamboo Rod Holder Two Rods. Hardy Brother’s Limited Angling Specialist and Manufacturers, fly rod, two tip(one finer) great shape, two Farrell caps, E60337 with extra wraps, J. H. Regal Trade, Rehefeau, 1946 5. Thanks for looking. 8'6" 51/4oz deluxe made in england . For your consideration is a very nice. There is a paper tag on one and one side it states that it is exact taper and ferrule for Payne and on the other side it says however Leonard like 3x3 node pattern and this one is 42.5" The shortest tip is 41.25" Use the zoom on the pics to see the detail better. Made from Palakona split bamboo with crimson tyings. Shipping insurance is included in the handling charge for all items over $30. The keepers are still in the ends of each section. or Best Offer. The article shows how to do the rod restoration from start to finish including repairing breaks. I welcome any questions/comments you may have. Some tyings have been replaced. I am not 100% certain how to measure length but looks to be 12 feet 1 inch long. Hardy" Murdoch" 10' 6" Split Bamboo Spinning Rod A 3 section rod with spare top section and 10'6" long. Number 14137" On end cap"Made by Hardy Brothers Ltd. Alnwick England" On opposite side of end cap(Serial Number) 192277 C" F" on rodshaft for Fairchild. Tyings and varnish show same age. Agate butt ring. We have had it in our collection every since. PLEASE CAREFULLY EXAMINE THE IMAGES BEFORE PLACING A BID. Bindings complete and re-varnished. For your consideration is a very nice. $20 . The Hollokona series of rods are Hollow built in the butt section and quite light in the hand at 4 3/4 oz. Fished about 6x, but looks pristine with no obvious wear, which is the condition I kept it in for the last 40+ years. THE PHANTUM SPLIT BAMBOO FLY ROD 8 1/2' IN A METAL CASE. This is a superb example of a classic"Hardy" rod and has a lovely feel when held. This comes from my Grandfather and Father. Superbe vintage split cane Hardy'The Palakona' trout flyrod 8' 1/2#6. I will combine shipping to $ave you $$. Doesn't get any better. Bamboo rods, as we all know, are no longer manufactured at Hardy. I thinks its amazing as is. Joints/ferrules and rings are fine. You normally wouldn't look at, an item this close. It comes with original sock and labels and a replacement tube. Varnish and tyings are generally sound. For your consideration is a very nice. I combined shipping on multiple purchases where possible to save you money. With it's org HARDY BAG Add to THE KING! 2032-3 Hardy Hollow Lite. Hardy The Palakona 8' 9" out of stock. Please ask for shipping costs within Europe. Over the years they remained influential primarily in Europe, though certain models - the Marvel, for example, and the CC de France - achieved even broader acclaim. Patent bridge intermediates and agate end rings. I have to say that I have similar opinion to Stefan when it comes to Hardy … Medium-Fast progressive action with a delicacy that allows you to fish with light tippets and small trout flies on little mountain brooks and on small waters everywhere. Makers details inscribed on butt cap. HARDY RODS - YEAR OF MANUFACTURE. Cork grip shows some soiling and one divet due to hooks. The Perfection. You will surely agree! Hardy 1904"The Murdoch" 11' 6" Split Bamboo Fly Rod A 3 section rod with spare top section and 11'6" long. Please ask. The rod measures approximately 10 foot 5 inches. Sections are straight and correct length. The sections are pretty straight and it has English Twist Guides. Palakona 8' 5"The Phantom" Bamboo Fly Fishing Rod Very good condition All eye's intact Includes cloth carrying bag Does not show much use or wear Due to dimensions. Hardy Lightweight Palakona Fly R ods(original advertisement) In 1997 Hardy introduced three Lightweight Palakonas exclusively for the American market. Tight joints. STAMPED"HARDY'S PAT. Shipping can take longer when mailed international. Doesn't get any better. Taken from our film "The Lost World of Mr Hardy". 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LISTED AS FOUND. Agatipe butt ring. Please Note: This auction is for the Rod only. In original case with bag inside a bag, inside bag intact, outside bag worn through at bottom as shown. THANK YOU. It has Hardy Ferrule Plugs on the butt and mid sections. AND IS SECURE TO THE ROD! Standard insurance amount will be for the final purchase price. Gold medal cc france Rod" from this aerea is hard to find serial number is A 81504 = YEAR 1913! The rod is marked"The Palakona" Regal Trade Mark#6 8'1/2 259cm F12. Priority only over $250 Express only Paypal and all other approved payments Payment due within 4 days California sales tax applies unless you can provide a valid resale# For California residents only. ! Use the zoom on the pics to see the detail on them. The ferrules are squeaky clean. It was used very little. C $1,028.23. This vintage rod holder remains in excellent condition generally. The fittings and adjustable"screw-grip" reel seat to the butt section are in alloy. Thanks and happy bidding. THE METAL BUTT OF HANDLE IS IN GD. All original in length and components and in very good condition. The brass butt is impressed with"Hardy Bros. Ltd. Alnwick, England" Pat. If I can read this correctly the serial number on the rod is 20246936. 10 Watching. Don't let this one get away! Buyers are responsible for return shipping assuming the item is as described in the listing. the photos is included with purchase. Easy casting smooth and slow action rod, Up for sale is a 1957 Hardy Bamboo fly rod. I have many more interesting items for sale.Check out my other items! Leather bottom and top. The previous owner has cut 23 groves in to the bottom of the handle at inch intervals to use a size measure for the fish he caught. HARDY RODS - YEAR OF MANUFACTURE. Free shipping to Canada and USA Expedited. Logo and is numbered: 10622 CONDITION: This rod was recently taken down from attic rafters where it was stored for over 60 years. 10 watching. The only flaws I note are some minor leather degradation and two tight striations to the tube, as shown in the final two images. It is a 3 piece 2 tip for a length of 8.5 feet. HARDY BROS. visit my store for more antique& vintage fishing rods. early hardy “the deluxe” palakona split cane trout fly rod £ 375.00 add to basket; edwin c.w. VINTAGE HARDY BROS LTD SPLIT BAMBOO FLY FISHING ROD 2 piece with bag If you have questions. 2 tips, Reel Seat stamped w/ Pat. The Bag has some marks and a name stitched on to it, Barnard Smith) the bamboo tube still has the original cap, but has lost the leather strap, some of the whipping to the tube has come astray. Hardy’s Demon rod series includes all the aspects we love about the Zephrus: Sintrix blank construction, Fuji guides, an aluminum reel seat, and a durable rod tube. Agatipe intermediates and Agatipe Corbett end ring. Rod is full length(tips slightly shorter than butt and mid as is proper for Hardy. Both habdles have solid brass fittings which have reatined much of their original finish. Local inspection and pickup is always encouraged. VICTORIAN(1892) HARDY 3 PIECE BAMBOO CANE ROD IN VERY GOOD CONDITION. Our return policy is the following: We have a 14 day return policy if any item is not described accurately by both written description and photos. This is a 9ft three piece Split Cane Rod. Rod number is H21169 and made in 1959. Hardy" The Marksman" 8'3" Split Bamboo Spinning Rod A 2 section rod and 8'3" long. back to home page return to top. Sections are straight and correct length. The leather and aluminum case is also very clean and in near new condition. HARDY BROS BAMBOO ROD/TIP TUBE C 1930s NO CRACKS/SPLITS. This is a superb example of a classic"Hardy" rod and has a lovely feel when held. The Hardy reel in some pictures is Not included and are Not for sale! Please allow our family to continue to propser selling on eBay by informing us first if you feel the need to leave anything less than a 5 rating in any category. I am not a professional grader, but this pole has probably never been fished by looking at it. SOLD AS SEEN. $750.00 US $895.00 US. The longest is 52" and there is a set of these with nickel silver ferrules and agate or red glass tip tops. Trade Mark. I was just given a Hardy bamboo fly rod. Thank you for visiting and we hope you come back soon. Products per page . SPAN For your consideration is a very nice. Your Custom Text Here. The middle section measures 39 inches. GENERAL This item is also for sale locally at Ace Buyers at 1396 South Airport Road. Green sold wraps with full intermediates, original bag and alloy tube. Not sure of the exact age, but believed to be from the 1920's. If the item is under $400.00. Please take a little time to view them. Domestic shipping via USPS Priority mail. Hardy sleeve and tube w/cover. VINTAGE 1965 Hardy's The Phantom#5 Two Piece Bamboo Fly Fishing Rod/ Pole with Sock& Aluminum Tube England Mint Here you have a great vintage rare 1960's Bamboo fly rod measures approx 8 feet. Offered at a Low Start ~ With No Reserve! Top section is 1 1/2" short and has a reinforced section(over a small cane sliver) 6" from the tip. VINTAGE HARDY BROS SPLIT BAMBOO FRESHWATER FLY FISHING ROD THREE(3) PART- E77427 original cloth bag in good condition. HARDY BROS. There is one that is has a serial number of#9490. Superb, vintage Hardy rod. Stamped on the metal ring: MADE BY HARDY BROS. LTD. ALNWICK. Made from Palakona split bamboo with agate butt ring. Made from Palakona split bamboo with agate butt ring. Rod number is A95236 which dates to 1915. Below reads: BY APPOINTMENT. Hardy Rod Names 1885 -1984 (Alphabetical Order) Type Section Length Year A E M Sussex Brook Split Bamboo 2 8´ 1929-1939 A H E Wood, No. By clicking on the pictures, they can be supersized for extra detail. This rod comes with its original bag but there is no tube. Once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to own a fine English split cane rod. Please ask for shipping costs within Europe. NO materials are included and this is NOT a book. Being a Moran Bamboo rod owner and user of a 7’6 (2 Piece) and having seen some of Calum's work whilst working for the Hardy rod company along side Tom Moran. Please check to see if you can receive this item in your country. Thanks for Looking@, This is a Vintage Hardy Palakona"Oelusei" Bamboo Fly Rod. 2pcs made in 1968. 7. 6' 4 1/2" SPLIT BAMBOO, SIX SIDED BAMBOO SHAFT, CASTING ROD, GREAT FOR DISPLAY, HAS A REPAIR 8" DOWN FROM TIP. Fullopen bridge intermediates and tulip agate end ring(replacement to spare top section) Complete with bag. It is marked Hardy of England, it is a 5 wgy. For your consideration is a very nice. U.S. Palakon, Regd. Can not mail Asia, Australia and South Africa due to oversize(1.37 meters) limit of 1 meter. VINTAGE BAMBOO FLY FISHING ROD HARDY BROTHERS 4PC 2 TIP 9' RARE ROD PLUGS MUST C, VINTAGE HARDY DE LUXE TROUT FLY FISHING 4 PIECE ROD & BAG & BAMBOO TUBE VGC, Vintage HARDY 'Palakona' 'The Salmon Delux' BAMBOO FLY ROD England, Hardy "The Fairchild" Bamboo Fly Rod 8'3" for 5 wt. I am confident that a mutually satisfactory solution can be worked out to any problem that might develop. Immediate payment is requested for"buy it now" fixed price" purchases. Hardy Commemorative 1903 3" "Bougle'' Reel Limited to 1000 reels made, this one stamped serial # 323 and the makers initials "JWS". Rod number is E73411 dating to 1950. EX. There are some flakes or flaws(I'm not sure which) on the bamboo finish which I have photographed. A Beautiful Early Rod from Alnwick, England. This sale is for a Vintage Hardy Phantom Hollokona 9' 2 piece 1 tip Bamboo Fly Rod rated for#6 line. The Gierach Signature model serial numbers began at 001 and each rod is signed by John Gierach. The 2nd tip or 4th piece, is shorter than it's sibling, and has a slightly more red colored. The metal could be cleaned up a bit if desired. 13/14 61 Paypal is my preferred payment method. Patent bridge intermediates and agate end ring(replacement ring to spare top) Complete with Hardy bag and stoppers. I will not refund for items mishandled by the post office when insurance is provided. plugs save ferrals . Alnwick, England" handwritten in indian ink and its original brass fittings and cap. And canvas rod bag. Nice 5 weight. NO OFFERS. Should you have any questions. SN# H.4260 Its a 10' 9wt rod in very good condition. Please enquire for a postal quote, before bidding, thankyou. Buyer to add $20.00 for Priority Shipping and Ins. It is quite simple to do all these jobs yourself when you know how to go about it properly. Agate butt ring. The result is a great mix of the material, tapered bamboo, and length. Unfortunately Cane rods are easily broken or otherwise damaged and it is quite common to find old rods that need repairs or complete restoration. This rod has been restored sometime in its history and the ghost … Please take a little time to view them. NO International shipping*Shipping is a little more due to the high dollar of insurance and the heavy weight of the leather tube*. The rod still has its' original bamboo rod tube. I will combine shipping to $ave you $$. Has a spare tip. It is marked Hardy of England, it is a 5 wgy. Snake intermediates and agate end ring. Presentation 8' #5 Bamboo Rod Signature 7' #4 Bamboo Rod The top section of the rod has a slight"set or kink to the left. The photographs form part of the description. If you have a problem just email me and I will correct it. Please see Photos on quality of rod. POSTAGE CHARGES QUOTED ARE, APPLICABLE TO THE UK MAINLAND ONLY. Or this link to add"fondrememberings" to your! 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